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18Jun2008

AUTOGRAPH COLLECTORS PLEASE READ



This does not apply to any of my reg­ular vis­i­tors, you know that…
xxG

A few weeks ago I received what appeared to be a very sweet and gen­uine letter from a 14 year old boy in Liverpool asking for my auto­graph. As this doesn’t happen very often and I was sup­pos­edly an ‘inspi­ra­tion’ to him, I sent him a signed copy of my book.
I have since found out that Robert Swale is a lying scumbag auto­graph hunter out to profit from my gulli­bility, and sur­prise sur­prise, all of a sudden loads of people want my auto­graph because you’re such big fans. To those of you who are gen­uine then I apol­o­gise, but the rest of you can sod off you lying under­hand par­a­sites.

20 comments

  1. Martyn - June 18, 2008 1:29 PM

    Hi Guy,

    As a scouser, I have to apol­o­gise for the behav­iour of the Swale person. It only takes one person to give a group of people a bad name, and we could do without that lying piece of scum giving us all a bad name.

    I hope this doesn’t alter your opinion of people from Liverpool, or your opinion of people in gen­eral.

    Martyn

  2. Nate - June 18, 2008 1:46 PM

    I would never part with my copy of your book that you signed for me at last years Chelsea Festival. I pre­sume Autographs are worth slightly less if they are ded­i­cated to someone spe­cific?
    I view the people that appear with their record bags at any Gilmour outing with equal sus­pi­cion I’m afraid.
    I had the per­fect oppor­tu­nity to ask Storm to sign my Atom Heart Mother CD and Black Strat book on Sunday evening but decided against it as I felt that he had prob­ably signed enough times that evening.

  3. Paul Sexton - June 18, 2008 8:04 PM

    Guy, You signed my book at The Underbelly last year and its not for sale at any price!!!…you still on the cigs????
    Cheers
    Paul

  4. Bas - June 18, 2008 8:55 PM

    Shit I forgot to ask a auto­graph last sunday I always forget to carry any books or lp with me silly me you right those MF spoil it for the gen­uine fans anyway I don’t want an auto­graph I didn’t get myself
    you looked like you had a rough weekend anyway haha­haha
    shame you missed the gig sunday was a really unique gig
    hope to see you live again soon
    Cheers

  5. Phoenix - June 18, 2008 11:35 PM

    I hate when people do stuff like this. Someone did some­thing sim­ilar to one of my favorite comic book artists at a con­ven­tion I was attending… only they had the gall to do it to his face and to bring in a mentally-​​impaired person with them to say that the moun­tain of comics they brought were all his and not the other bloke’s.

    Thanks for signing my copy of the book at the Odeon and your gen­erosity on Gabrielle’s behalf last year (oh, the look on her face…) 😀

    Luv,
    Nix.

  6. Karen - June 19, 2008 9:45 AM

    Hello Mr Pratt, thank you for making an effort for those of us who are gen­uinely inter­ested, and I can say my signed book is very much a prized pro­ces­sion and I do truly appre­ciate every­thing you have done for me.

  7. Caroline - June 19, 2008 4:43 PM

    I too hate to hear about these kinds of sto­ries. Reminds me all too much of when I used to be a HUGE ice hockey col­lector, and would there­fore go out to events (hosted by the Carolina Hurricanes since I lived in Raleigh, NC at the time) for autographs…you could spot the ‘scum­bags’, as you aptly dubbed them Guy, from a mile away. The ‘scum­bags’ were the ones who didn’t have only one item per player, as the rules said you should only bring, but any­where from five to ten to even fif­teen or twenty items!! Almost thank­fully, these money grub­bing types were turned away from player tables, but unfor­tu­nately every now and then, one would somehow get through… *sighs*

    Another set of ‘scum­bags’ from the hockey/​sports (and really, the gen­eral) world worth men­tioning are those at events like celebrity golf tour­na­ments. Those do not have the ‘one item’ rules, because they would be dif­fi­cult to enforce given that how auto­graphs are dis­trib­uted and you can only have so many vol­un­teers at these ‘tournaments’…once a celeb player fin­ishes a hole, they have to approach their ‘audi­ence’ and sign as many autos as time allows. Based on the two tour­neys I attended, I really wish there was a way to enforce ‘one/​two item’ rules…because I saw way, WAY TOO MANY people who would bring tons of items, and stay in a celeb’s audi­ence for all eight­teen holes, and bring a dif­ferent item per hole in hopes that the celeb would sign it and not rec­og­nize that it was the same person handing them dif­ferent items. It seri­ously made me sick to my stomach to see such crimes going on…

    …Which leads me to say that my not wanting to be lumped with such people is why I even­tu­ally got out of the ice hockey col­lecting world. It wouldn’t have been ‘even­tu­ally’ if it were not for the fact that having been a little younger and not as wiser then, I never really thought about what an overall dirty hobby sports col­lecting can be until my eyes were opened. And even though I have a few autos I paid for then, I feel rather ashamed of them nowa­days knowing that the money most likely went to the types I just got through describing and have been ranting about. So there­fore, I have vowed that if I am to ever pay for an auto, it will only be if 100% of the money goes to charity…though, I may still remain wary of sellers claiming to do that, because how are we to seri­ously know? That said, when and if I ever decide to sell most of my hockey col­lec­tion, I’m going to see to it that an over­whelming majority of the money I make from that, if not all of it, will go to charity or some kind of good cause, because it is very much THE right thing to do after all I have wit­nessed.

    In closing, I not only apol­o­gize for yet another long-​​winded post (can you tell that I have dreamt plenty a time of being a writer? 😉 ), but also have to say it’s quite the coin­ci­dence that you posted about auto­graphs because I was get­ting ready to ask this week if you had ever sent out the auto­graph I asked for back in February. I worry that the post office here or some­where in the US of A ate it. *sighs* If I had ever gotten it, I wouldn’t have not only not entered the naming con­test for your show, but also would cer­tainly never part with it for all of the money in the world. And I mean that as not only someone who tries their best to be a good fan, Floydian, and Randall and Hopkirk zealot (while I’m at it, other auto­graphs I would never part with for all of the money in the world are the ones I got from Mr. Kenneth Cope and Ms. Annette Andre, my very first and only ones I’ve ever gotten via sending fan let­ters thus far…and it’s THE way to get auto­graphs, because for the gen­uine fans like me, there is nothing like the thrill of knowing a person who has enter­tained and/​or enthralled you has taken the time to read your letter and send back proof of that) but also someone who con­siders her­self a friend of yours, albeit a dis­tant one.

    As the others have said, I hope the inci­dent doesn’t change your opinion of people in gen­eral. But also, after such an inci­dent and all about which I’ve car­ried on, I can cer­tainly under­stand your being a bit more wary of giving out your auto­graph.

    - Caroline

  8. ayako - June 20, 2008 4:20 AM

    How awful…
    I have to admit that when­ever pos­sible, I try to get auto­graphs from artists I truly like, just for my per­sonal col­lec­tion and as mementos of won­derful times.
    Like Caroline and others have said, I also hope the ‘scumbag’ doesn’t spoil it for true fans… I still show off and brag about the per­son­al­ized authographed copy of ‘My Bass and Other Animals’ which you, Guy, so gra­ciously gave away during the lim­m­erick con­test at dg​.com blog. Once again, thanks!
    Cheers!
    ayako

  9. Thomas Robinson - June 22, 2008 12:20 PM

    Some people will do any­thing to get what they want but to pre­tend to be a 14 year old kid to pull on your heart strings is really low.

    I’d just like to say that about a month ago i did jok­ingly send you a poke prat asking for your auto­graph but i was only kid­ding. Autographs don’t really mean much if you just ‘send off’ for one. Surely they are only mean­ingful when you are with the person when they sign it? Clearly Robert Swale dis­agrees.

    Can i just ask, am i the only person here that hasn’t got a signed copy of My Bass and Other Animals? 🙂 It looks like an un-​​signed copy might be rarer than a signed copy!

    As its Glastonbury next week and there is a lot of BBC cov­erage planned do you know if any of your show will be shown Guy?

    Cheers
    Thomas

  10. Phoenix - June 22, 2008 7:30 PM

    Rare unsigned copy’ is a joke Guy made to me at the Odeon last year when I waved my copy up at him on the bal­cony. It has since been duly ‘defaced’ and retains prize placing on my book­shelf, only removed to re-​​read. It even gets dusted. 😀

  11. Ed Lopez - June 23, 2008 9:46 PM

    Hey Guy,

    The sit­u­a­tion you described, related to an auto­graph request is quite dis­ap­pointing. As someone who has a few things auto­graphed by you and other mem­bers of Floyd, I have to say that there are those of us who truly cherish having a copy of a record or book signed by those who cre­ated or were involved in the cre­ation of the item. I hope this doesn’t sour your expe­ri­ence com­pletely and that some of us can still get an auto­graph now and then. We’re talking about the music and sto­ries that helped shape and form our musical tastes and some­times other aspects of our lives!

    I will say this, and I think many other fans and friends who con­tribute to your blog will agree: we would never buy an auto­graph from someone like the indi­vidual you men­tioned. What true fan would acquire an auto­graph without acquiring a story — a story of meeting the artist whose auto­graph is embla­zoned on the item?

    My intent in col­lecting auto­graphs is so someday, when my kids begin to dis­cover the same bands I liked, I can pull a book or CD off the shelf and show then that at one point I was able to tell the artist how appre­ci­ated his or her music was and to relate a story of a ques­tion or two that I was able to ask that artist in person about their work.

    Let’s hope as fans we all pro­tect the sin­cere interest we have in an auto­graph over the interest of folks like the one you men­tion. We need to refrain from rewarding these folks by buying their stuff on eBay.

    For each auto­graph I’ve acquired, I have a great story on how I got to meet the artist — some­times it’s simply about the sac­ri­fice it took to make it to a par­tic­ular gig, for example. The last time I had some­thing auto­graphed by you it was out­side the Groucho Club after David Gilmour’s DVD pre­mier in London. I had flown all the way from Utah for that gig!

    Ed

  12. Justin Bousquet - July 16, 2008 1:53 AM

    I don’t ever leave com­ments but, this made me sick! I hate that there are some people out in this world that would do such a thing. Don’t lie and tell a man that he changed your life when you could care less. It sucks that some people ruin it for all of us true fans! Guy Pratt cer­tainly changed me life, no doubt about it! Thank Guy for trying to do what you thought was right and thank you for being my musical inspi­ra­tion!

    Take Care
    –Justin Bousquet

    p.s. bring your My Bass and Other Animals Show to the USA, I want to get the full expe­ri­ence!

  13. Mondo - July 23, 2008 8:09 PM

    What a wanker!

    Sorry to hear you was duped Guy. Must have been really deflating to find out the person ripped you off. 🙁

    I can send you my auto­graph if it would cheer you up. You won’t get much on Ebay for it tho. hehe.

    Later Guy. Have a good rest of year.

  14. Hot Lunch - August 9, 2008 3:54 PM

    I hate those fuckers who turn up at gigs with bags of guitar boards (or what­ever they’re called) expecting bands or band mem­bers (and often ones who, like me, don’t know their way around a guitar) to sign them. One of those so and so’s cost me the chance of get­ting Ronnie James Dio to sign a copy of ‘Live eviL’ last year.

  15. Warren Loveridge - August 24, 2008 6:54 AM

    Guy, you signed my tickets out­side the RAH prior to DG’s Monday night gig there in 2006. Those tickets aren’t for sale at any price. It is part of the cher­ished little col­lec­tion of mem­o­ra­bilia that I have con­cerning a won­derful 3 nights at the RAH. The mere thought of prof­i­teering from your ges­ture absolutely sickens me to the gut. There’s some­thing nasty, seedy and under­hand about the whole idea.

    I don’t know how a super-​​celebrity such as your­self can ever, on-​​the-​​spot, tell the dif­fer­ence between a gen­uine fan and an auto­graph par­a­site, but I hope you never feel com­pelled to for­sake the former on account of the latter. I cer­tainly under­stand why DG doesn’t often put pen to odd bits of paper.

  16. Robert Swale - December 6, 2008 12:14 PM

    Guy,

    Please accept my sin­cere apolo­gies for calling you a ‘liar’.

    I was wrong to do so and i have really learnt a lesson now.

    Yours,

    Robert

  17. Robert Swale - December 25, 2008 2:20 PM

    Just for everyone else who has seen this mes­sage, all i did was posted an image of the book onto an auto­graph col­lec­tors forum which included info on how i had achieved it. I have never had any inten­tion to sell the book or cause as much trouble as i have done for Guy. All the details asso­ci­ated with the book have now been removed. Also, i never pre­tended to be any­body that i am not.

    Robert

  18. autographfanno1 - August 19, 2009 8:26 PM

    Wow, you ARE a pratt. He was a fan of you and was happy to recieve your auto­graph, so he posted it online to show it. It was the fault of other idiots to spam you.

  19. jennie - February 4, 2011 7:30 PM

    I have a guy pratt auto­graph from when you were in cal­i­fornia in 1987 at the ritz car­olton. i just want to know what it worth?

  20. domain ip - June 14, 2014 8:47 PM

    wow what a mess…it’s an autograph…don’t be so precious…without fans you would be sat at the desk next to me